The demise of community.linkeddata.org

The issue of what happened to the community.linkeddata.org site came up in this thread on the public-lod mailing list. In the name of the public record I’m posting some of the messages I have related to this issue. I’ll try and get any gaps filled in in due course (let me know if there are specific gaps of interest to you and I’ll try to fill them in); in the meantime I’m keen to get the key bits online.

Some background is here:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lod/2008Apr/0096.html



from    Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@d...>
to    Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@o...>
cc    Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@o...>,Tom Heath <tom.heath@t...>
date    9 February 2009 18:27
subject    Re: "powered by" logos on linkeddata.org MediaWiki

MacTed,

I'll likely not invest time anymore in the Wiki [the MediaWiki instance at community.linkeddata.org - TH]. The plan is to transfer everything to Drupal. We had a lot of hassle with the Wiki configuration and community contribution was rather low. After the spam attack we decided to close it. It only contains few valuable things (glossary and iM maybe) ..

Do you have an account at linkeddata.org Drupal, yet? Otherwise, Tom, would you please be so kind?

Again, sorry for the delay ... it's LDOW-paper-write-up time :)

Cheers,
Michael


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National University of Ireland, Lower Dangan,
Galway, Ireland, Europe
Tel. +353 91 495730



> From: Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@o...>
> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:22:31 -0500
> To: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@d...>
> Cc: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@o...>
> Subject: "powered by" logos on linkeddata.org MediaWiki
>
> Hi, Michael --
>
> re: <http://community.linkeddata.org/MediaWiki/index.php?Main_Page>
>
> It appears that the "Powered by Virtuoso" logo that was once alongside
> the
> "Powered by Mediawiki" logo (lower right of every page) has disappeared
> from the main page boilerplate.  Can that get re-added, please?
>
> Please use this logo --
>
>
> <http://boards.openlinksw.com/support/styles/prosilver/theme/images/virt_power
> _no_border.png
>>
>
> -- and make it href link to --
>
>     <http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/>
>
> Please let me know if there's any difficulty with this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ted
>
>
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from Tom Heath
to Michael Hausenblas
date 9 March 2009 13:49
subject Re: http://linkeddata.org/domains?
mailed-by talisplatform.com

Hey Michael,

Re 2. great! I've created this node
and put it near the top of the primary navigation. You should be able
to write to that at will :)

Re 1. yes, good idea. I agree we should do this, just need to think
through the IA a little. Can you give me a day or so to chew this
over?

Cheers :)

Tom.




2009/3/7 Michael Hausenblas :
> Tom,
>
> As you may have gathered we're about to close down the 'old' community Wiki
> [1] and move over to [2]. There is not much active (and valuable) content at
> [1] and we had a lot of troubles with spammer (oh how I hate these ...).
>
> So, basically two things would be great:
>
> 1. I'd like to propose to add a sort of 'domain' or 'community' sub-space,
> such as http://linkeddata.org/domains where I can put our interlinking
> multimedia stuff [3] (and then change the redirect ;)
>
> 2. The second thing would be to find a place at [2] for the glossary [4] -
> seems quite helpful for people.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
> Cheers,
> Michael
>
> [1] http://community.linkeddata.org/MediaWiki/index.php?Main_Page
> [2] http://linkeddata.org/
> [3] http://www.interlinkingmultimedia.info/
> [4] http://community.linkeddata.org/MediaWiki/?Glossary
>
> --
> Dr. Michael Hausenblas
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> National University of Ireland, Lower Dangan,
> Galway, Ireland, Europe
> Tel. +353 91 495730
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It’s quite hard to follow the indenting in the mail exchange below, so I’ve marked my contributions in bold.


from Tom Heath
to Kingsley Idehen
cc Michael Hausenblas
date 18 June 2009 17:07
subject Re: community.linkeddata.org
mailed-by talisplatform.com

Kingsley,

Also, what news of the previous instance?

Cheers,

Tom.

2009/6/18 Tom Heath :
> Hi Kingsley,
>
> Would the service you envisage at the subdomains you propose provide
> only a URI minting plus FOAF+SSL/OpenID service, or would other stuff
> also be available at that domain? If so, what?
>
> Tom.
>
>

> 2009/6/18 Kingsley Idehen :
>> Tom Heath wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Kingsley,
>>>
>>> 2009/6/16 Kingsley Idehen :
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tom Heath wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Kingsley,
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/6/16 Kingsley Idehen :
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom Heath wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Kingsley,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to our earlier discussions, this subdomain is deprecated in
>>>>>>> favour of the main site at linkeddata.org. If you'd a like a different
>>>>>>> subdomain for specific service just let me know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are the options?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Guess that depends on the service you have in mind :) My goal is to
>>>>> avoid fragmentation of the presence at linkeddata.org and subdomains,
>>>>> so favour only creating new subdomains that do something highly
>>>>> specific and do not duplicate functionality or content available
>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

>>>>
>>>> I am not quite understanding you.
>>>>
>>>> What would you see as the scheme for an instance of ODS that gives LOD
>>>> members URIs (of the FOAF+SSL variety)?
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I have no particular interest in pushing this with you per
>>>> se.
>>>> If you somehow deem this unimportant, no problem, I move on etc..
>>>>
>>>
>>> So the proposal is for another equivalent ODS instance, but one that
>>> adds FOAF+SSL support?
>>>
>>> If so, then this does sound important, as FOAF+SSL seems to have lots
>>> to offer. The problem I'm trying to address is as follows: the
>>> feedback I got from people about the previous offering at
>>> community.linkeddata.org was that it was confusing. People didn't
>>> understand what was going on or being offered, and the end result
>>> seemed to be further fragmentation of Linked Data coverage -
>>> particularly problematic for newbies. Therefore a very trimmed down
>>> service offering just personal URIs with FOAF+SSL support would seem
>>> to be of benefit, but I'm not sure of the value of replicating the
>>> previous offering with enhancements.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Incidentally, the previous instance seems to have died. Can it be
>>> reinstated while we finish porting the content across?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Tom.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Tom,
>>
>> Goal is to have a place for people to easily obtain personal URIs. In a way,
>> official LOD community Web IDs.
>> FOAF+SSL is the most important feature here and LOD should be a launch pad.
>>
>> Possible options:
>> yourid.linkeddata.org
>> webid.linkeddata.org
>> me.linkeddata.org
>>
>>
>> This is how it works:
>>
>> 1. New Users open accounts
>> 2. Edit profile
>> 3. Click a button that makes an X.509 certificate, exports to browser, and
>> writes to FOAF space
>> 4. Member visits any FOAF+SSL or OpenID space on the Web and never has to
>> present uid/pwd
>>
>> For existing members, they simply perform steps 3-4.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
>> President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
>>
>
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